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It looks like we may have a new CIA director WHO'S ANTI-TORTURE.

OH MY GOD.

If this is really true I will be so, so happy. This was one of my big things in supporting Obama (in supporting ANY Democrat really). Partly because it was [livejournal.com profile] bellatrys's coverage of Abu Ghraib back four and a half years ago that made me wake up and start paying attention to politics, but also because of simple humanity, I've been very sad and angry over what the US has been doing with its prisoners during the war on terror.

There are other issues, even other very important issues, but if Obama is listening on civil rights--OH MY GOD. I will *dance*.

Date: 2009-01-07 03:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hoppytoad79.livejournal.com
The more I learned about Bush and saw him in action, the greater my loathing for him and feeling like I was trapped in some kind of living nightmare that grew darker and more twisted and surreal over time.

The more I learn about Obama and see him in action, the greater my support and admiration for him increases. The nightmare is, for all intents and purposes, over. We're free, the sky is clearing, and the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a train that'll run us over this time. I literally feel like a weight's been taken off when I hear Obama speak or hear about his policies or what he wants to do. I'm finally hearing sanity instead of war-mongering rhetoric that leaves me terrified because I know it'll only inflame the anti-US sentiments in the Middle East (read: increase terrorist recruits and the risk of our being hit with another terrorist attack). We're not in a car heading for the cliff edge, tied up and unable to do anything to save ourselves, any more. THANK GOD! The last eight years have been a living hell in numerous ways. I just want Bush to go away and stay gone. Screw tradition and pomp and circumstance. Swear Obama in now and have the parties in a few weeks. The sooner we can get started on cleaning up our messes and changing policies/focus, the better.

Date: 2009-01-07 11:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hoppytoad79.livejournal.com
I know what I'd have done: started making my arrangements to move to the UK. I still want to, but there's no rush on it.

Date: 2009-01-08 12:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hoppytoad79.livejournal.com
BTW, I really like that Obama is admitting up front that 2009 is going to be tough in a lot of ways. I was so sick of the bullshit about how everything was FREEDOM and BLAH BLAH coming out of Bush's mouth, I was choking on it.

A most emphatic 'AMEN!'. FINALLY, a politician who's being straight about the situation and the prognosis. He. Makes. Sense. His ideas make sense, his positions make sense, and what he's saying, period, makes sense because he speaks English, not Politico. Bush speaks Politico (much more fluently than English). Hillary speaks Politico. Name a politician and they very likely speak Politico anytime they're addressing the public.

I have absolutely no doubt Obama has, at one time, engaged in some of the same backscratching, quid pro quo kind of things every other politician has. You don't get as far as he has without some dirt on your hands. I'd really like to believe he hasn't but...yeah. As politicians go, though, his hands are a lot cleaner and his closet much emptier of skeletons. Someone I heard on the radio last year noted that no one had been able to dig up dirt on Obama, which put a huge grin/smirk on my face. Suck that, McCain! HA!

My dad is convinced our taxes are about to go through the roof to pay for an increase in government programs and things are generally going to get worse domestically than they were under Bush. I bit my tongue on the second part but on the first, I said something like, "Use the programs. Get your money's worth." I went on to remind him that I've been getting food stamps and, for a time, medical assistance (need to hook up with that again) so I'm benefiting from what my taxes have, in part, been used to fund. I also told him that when you take into account what programs the Canadian government offers, the US and Canada both pay about 29% in taxes to the government. He has a well-developed case of selective deafness, so who knows if I was wasting my breath or not. *shrugs* Anyway, we shall see what happens. Now it's the conservatives' turn for grinding and gnashing of teeth and thinking Obama is the Antichrist who'll drive our nation straight to Hel in the express lane. If that's the case, it would be more correct to say Obama will finish a trip Shrub so enthusiastically started us on. And I now have an image of Shrub in a red-orange convertible with a Confederate flag sticker on the bumper and horn that plays 'Dixie', shouting 'YEE HAW!' at the top of his lungs and waiving his large cowboy hat in the air as he speeds along in the Express Lane. Oddly, the stretch of road I see him on looks like part of the roadway I saw in London on my way from the airport to where I was staying. I've tried morphing it to resemble expressway near Detroit, MI but no success. My memories of England are now polluted. *weeps*

Date: 2009-01-08 06:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hoppytoad79.livejournal.com
My dad holds the association with Ayers against Obama big time. Not only did he bomb back in...whatever year that was, there was that comment in 2001 that was pro-bombing (I'm tired; memory not working). That the man may have changed in the seven-ish years since then doesn't hold water with my dad. *shrug* Whatever. He also told me he'd heard someone on a liberal radio show say Obama had run a dirty campaign. I said, "Are you sure they weren't talking about McCain?" but he was emphatic the person was talking about Obama. I'm certain he got the candidates confused.

Yay Leon! Local boy makes good... again!

Date: 2009-01-07 04:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jdarkling.livejournal.com
I was in shock and then went DAWWWWW over the pick of Leon Panetta. I have great respect for Leon, and he is very respected here in California. Except by DiFi, but I've been ticked at her for awhile so her opinion doesn't matter to me. :P

A tidbit, there's a local cable show in my neck of the woods by one of the areas chef/businessmen. The guy cooks with Californian celebrities and a few years back he had Leon Panetta on the show. I HOPE THEY SHOW IT AGAIN, because OMG so adorable! The host and Leon were cooking and drinking wine and goofing off and getting red in the face... super cute!

So in addition to being on the right side of important issues like torture, he's also a sweetie!


P.S. Your journal is BEAUTIFUL!!!!

Date: 2009-01-07 06:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] windcedar.livejournal.com
Yess.

(Though, of course, not torturing people should, in a sane universe, not even be on the table as something to be applauded; it should be something to be assumed. But this is a step in that direction.)

Date: 2009-01-08 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] windcedar.livejournal.com


It sounded fine to me until you said that. Now...I dunno. ;) (But the source of all knowledge that is Google says it is.)

Also, icon love! :D Did Mark Twain really say that? *Googles* He did! Cool.

Date: 2009-01-08 06:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] windcedar.livejournal.com
*giggle* Yes! :D

Date: 2009-01-07 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fallingtowers.livejournal.com
I have recently been very remiss in paying attention to world politics (or any kind of politics, really), but I shall have to look up Leon Panetta asap. This would be wonderful news indeed.

Date: 2009-01-08 05:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fallingtowers.livejournal.com
I've been living under a rock since early December, so the only thing about the world news I am aware of is That There's Lots of Shit Going on in Israel and Palestine Again. However, I did look up Panetta on Wiki (um, see my awesome research skillz...), and what I read there makes me happy: pro-civil rights under the Nixon administration; a marine environmentalist; and an opponent of torture? I see your active happiness indeed!

Date: 2009-01-09 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fallingtowers.livejournal.com
Feingold sounds like a really cool guy, so yes, two thumbs up for that!

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